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		<title>Fly Fishing’s Trade Show Death Match Continues – Only Now It’s AFFTA’s Own Partner Sniffing Blood</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the fly fishing industry typically generates all the corporate bloodletting of your average kitten fight, in recent years we&#8217;ve been treated to the spectacle of a meltdown in AFFTA&#8217;s trade show decision-making process.
With chainsaw death matches so rare in this industry, frankly, it&#8217;s been huge fun.
First AFFTA fired a shot across &#8220;The Fly Fishing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>While the fly fishing industry typically generates all the corporate bloodletting of your average kitten fight, in recent years we&#8217;ve been treated to the spectacle of a meltdown in AFFTA&#8217;s trade show decision-making process.</p>
<p><img class="alignright" title="Its AFFTA vs The World" src="http://troutunderground.com/images/TwoFlyFishing.WhatsReallyGoingOnInDenver_B3A9/boxinggloves.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="189" />With <a href="http://troutunderground.com/2007/12/12/two-fly-fishing-shows-enter-only-one-leaves-welcome-to-the-denver-fly-fishing-show-death-match/" >chainsaw death matches</a> so rare in this industry, frankly, it&#8217;s been huge fun.</p>
<p>First AFFTA fired a shot across &#8220;The Fly Fishing Show&#8221; owner Chuck Furimsky&#8217;s bow when they <a href="http://troutunderground.com/2008/02/04/the-fly-fishing-trade-show-wars-what-happened-and-why-did-the-affta-prez-resign/" >went head-to-head with his Denver consumer show</a>.</p>
<p>That worked about as well expected (#fail), and I thought the matter was settled (#fail X2).</p>
<p>For example, the remnants of AFFTA&#8217;s failed consumer show combined with the ISE show, and this year, they&#8217;re again going to compete directly (on the same weekend) with Furimky&#8217;s Denver show.</p>
<p>AFFTA, apparently, are slow learners.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s become clear AFFTA&#8217;s Fly Fishing Retailer (dealer) show is staggering.</p>
<p>Despite sizable amounts of industry cheerleading (and you know who you are), staying awake through the Fly Fishing Retailer show the last three years has generally required large doses of powerful, illegal stimulants.</p>
<p>In fact, for months now, speculation was rife the ailing FFR show would be combined with the sizable Outdoor Retailer show in Salt Lake City, and when the AFFTA Board of Directors voted that idea down, most of us <a href="http://troutunderground.com/2009/10/23/with-fly-fishing-retailer-show-in-decline-affta-board-makes-bold-move-then-tells-no-one-about-it/" >wondered exactly what the hell they had in mind</a>.</p>
<p>Turns out, <em>nothing</em> (at least if we read our press releases correctly).</p>
<p>Adding to the general hilarity, Furimsky clearly hasn&#8217;t forgotten the direct assault on his Denver show, and he&#8217;s proposing a Florida-based dealer trade show, touting the location&#8217;s lower cost.</p>
<p>Now it appears that Nielsen Media &#8211; the company that owned and operated the FFR show in the past &#8211; may be moving in for the kill.</p>
<p>Simply put, there&#8217;s blood in the water, Undergrounders (and we know what that means).</p>
<p>First, AFFTA issued a <a href="http://campaign.constantcontact.com/render?v=001aqkzoXHU1G0yfvsNtQa-I7d8Gkc2FARPivmGxOIVD_RikRn2cReCSqNL0VtPc9XR5gbsp63HUdutOdcaXmzXJQEA9BzQ5GUTCyAQTU6pVL5gH749U5dgEQ%3D%3D" >painfully long-winded press release</a> explaining why they rejected the Outdoor Retailer show option (<strong>Warning</strong>: powerful stimulants may also be needed to read the following, which sadly includes the phrase &#8220;thinking outside the box&#8221;):</p>
<blockquote><p>LOUISVILLE, COLORADO.  Since April, 2009, AFFTA has been in discussions with Nielsen Business Media, owner of the FlyFishing Retailer Expo (FFR) to determine how to improve upon future FFR shows.  Nielsen shared AFFTA&#8217;s desire to improve upon the design and production of future FFR shows.</p>
<p>Thinking outside the box, as the owner of the Outdoor Retailer Show (OR), Nielsen offered to create a &#8220;show within a show&#8221; by combining FFR with the 2010 Summer OR Show in Salt Lake City.  David Loechner, Nielsen Sr. V.P., delivered the &#8220;show within a show&#8221; proposal to the AFFTA Board at their meeting in September.</p>
<p>According to AFFTA Chairman, Alan Gnann, &#8220;When the Outdoor Retailer proposal was first brought to the AFFTA Board&#8217;s attention, the Board was interested in the opportunities this combination offered.  The thought of having our show within a show the size and caliber of OR was initially felt to be a reasonably good fit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, when the AFFTA Board received the final floor space proposal from Nielsen, the total space allocated to the fly fishing industry was grossly insufficient; the separate space to create the &#8220;show within a show&#8221; concept was not offered nor was space allocated for indoor casting ponds.  In addition, many AFFTA members stated that the timing of the OR Show was not a good fit for the fly fishing industry.  Therefore, citing these deficiencies, the AFFTA Board of Directors rejected Nielsen&#8217;s proposal.</p>
<p>Immediately after the AFFTA Board voted to reject Nielsen&#8217;s Outdoor Retailer proposal, AFFTA and Nielsen engaged in good-faith negotiations to allow AFFTA the opportunity to acquire the rights and licenses to the FFR show. Unfortunately, these negotiations were unsuccessful and AFFTA asked Nielsen to either produce a 2010 FFR show or terminate the agreement.</p>
<p>According to Gnann, &#8220;Nielsen and their predecessors have been great partners and collaborators for many years.  Prior to the downturn in the economy, trade shows nationwide were generally profitable and well attended.  However, the current economic climate dictates that AFFTA and Nielsen pursue a different business model.  Therefore, as of November 30, 2009, Nielsen released AFFTA from its show production contract.  It is now time for AFFTA to move on and determine its next course of action.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Since April, the Board of Directors has been working diligently with Nielsen to consider a wide range of options and combinations for FFR,&#8221; said AFFTA President Gary Berlin.  &#8220;Because of confidentiality and non-compete provisions in the Nielsen agreement, the AFFTA Board has been unable to notify the industry of the on-going discussions or issue a press release on the status of the show.  Now that AFFTA and Nielsen are no longer contractually obligated, the AFFTA Board is considering multiple options for a 2010 fly fishing industry trade show, including hosting a standalone show or combining with an existing show.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Berlin promises to keep the fly fishing industry up-to-date on AFFTA&#8217;s plans for a 2010 fly fishing industry trade show</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure, it&#8217;s whiny. Sure, it&#8217;s clear AFFTA is lost, and like men everywhere, they&#8217;re refusing to stop and ask for directions.</p>
<p>And yes, am I the only person in the whole industry amused by the thought that AFFTA will keep us &#8220;up-to-date&#8221; on their plans for next year&#8217;s trade show?</p>
<p>(AFFTA is to fly fishing bloggers what Dan Quayle was to comedians &#8211; a dependable source of material.)</p>
<p><strong>Blood in the Water, Fins On The Surface</strong></p>
<p>Meanwhile, Furimsky&#8217;s dealer show is still on the table.</p>
<p>And yes &#8211; based on an email received from Outdoor Retailer&#8217;s PR agency &#8211; we can now plainly see a shark&#8217;s fin (a rare Nielsen&#8217;s shark) as it knifes through the water, heading directly for AFFTA&#8217;s leaking, dangerously overloaded lifeboat.</p>
<p>First, SOAR Communication&#8217;s Maura Lansford opens fire with:</p>
<blockquote><p>In the letter, Haroutunian invites members of the fly fishing industry to join Outdoor Retailer Summer Market in 2010, as the FlyFishing Retailer Show will no longer take place in its current format. The conclusion that the fly fishing industry cannot sustain a stand-alone event in the current marketplace follows months of discussions with members of the fly fishing industry.</p>
<p>As part of its Summer Market event, Outdoor Retailer has offered to provide a new venue and demo experience for FlyFishing Retailer participants, along with an opportunity to grow the fly fishing category into other segments in the outdoor recreation market.</p></blockquote>
<p>The in the press release portion of the email, former FFR show director (and current Outdoor Retailer show director) Kenji Haroutunian lights &#8216;em up with:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Fly Fishing Industry and Outdoor Retailer to Join Forces in 2010</strong><br />
From our 30 years of experience producing scores of specialty-sports tradeshows including 11 years producing FlyFishing Retailer, it is clear that the fly fishing marketplace will be better served now and in the future by expanding its reach to include the overall outdoor specialty marketplace. We are convinced that the best opportunity to grow as a market, and build on the core strength inherent in the fly fishing market, is to be connected to a larger collection of relevant businesses at Outdoor Retailer. Therefore, the entire fly fishing industry is invited to join Outdoor Retailer Summer Market Trade Show in 2010 as the FlyFishing Retailer Trade Expo will no longer be held in Denver</p>
<p><strong>A Winning Opportunity</strong><br />
More than 25 percent of FlyFishing Retailer companies already exhibit at Outdoor Retailer, and those that haven&#8217;t are now invited to participate in the Outdoor Retailer Summer Market 2010 Trade Show. For more than 27 years Outdoor Retailer has provided a specialty wholesale watersports culture that thrives on a national and international level. At OR, consistently more than 20,000 professional participants advance the sales process not only in their own category but across multiple lifestyle segments within the overall specialty outdoor market. Please visit www.outdoorretailer.com now for more information about participating in Outdoor Retailer Summer Market.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ahh, my Undergrounders &#8211; it&#8217;s the classic &#8220;boy meets girl, boy loses girl&#8221; love story. Only with trade shows. (See how we make this stuff clear for you?)</p>
<p>First Nielsen sends AFFTA on its merry way, then circles back and does the trade show equivalent of hitting on the attractive women in the group, suggesting they come over to Nielsen&#8217;s place for margaritas and chips while leaving their useless, beer-swilling, farting boyfriends behind.</p>
<p>Given AFFTA&#8217;s track record, I&#8217;d book a flight for Salt Lake City.</p>
<p><strong>***UPDATE</strong>: Angling Trade (industry blog) says AFFTA sources have said there will be an &#8220;<a href="http://www.anglingtrade.com/2009/12/01/the-latest-scoop-on-ffr-affta-and-the-industry-trade-shows/" >AFFTA-endorsed trade show sometime in 2010</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not the same as saying it will be standalone fly fishing show, though you&#8217;d assume that would be AFFTA&#8217;s goal.</p>
<p>The site also revealed AFFTA revenues and attendance figures from the last few years of FFR:</p>
<blockquote><p>According to sources, gross income for the 2009 event was somewhere @ $460,000, in 2007, gross income was over $700,000… exhibitor numbers went from 234 in 2007 to 146 in 2009</p></blockquote>
<p>Note that these are &#8220;gross&#8221; numbers &#8211; not net. It&#8217;s not clear to us if Nielsen was losing money on the show, but a 1/3 decline in exhibitors speaks volumes about the shows viability in its current state.</p>
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		<title>Sneak To California</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yellowstoner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[IT'S WAY EARLYFOR STEELHEADIt's Just Right For Salmongood bye Chetco / hello Smith-------.. Just a brief note: gone south of the border for a couple of days. The 30# salmon of the Chetco River are interesting - BUT; how 'bout some from the main-stem Sm...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 0);font-size:180%;" ><span style="font-size:130%;">IT'S WAY EARLY</span></span><br /><span style="font-size:180%;"><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 0);font-size:130%;" >FOR STEELHEAD</span><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 0);">It's Just Right For Salmon</span><br /></div><div  style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;"><span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 102);font-size:78%;" >good bye Chetco / hello Smith</span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SxHcB3-QbmI/AAAAAAAAIco/H7eBbZHPW1g/s1600/M_FORK-Smith.JPG"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 540px; height: 416px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SxHcB3-QbmI/AAAAAAAAIco/H7eBbZHPW1g/s400/M_FORK-Smith.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5409346552211730018" border="0" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;">-------<br /></span></div><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVRQVYxNOI/AAAAAAAAIYM/OoJKwVfuQNw/s400/welcome_road_trip.gif"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 148px; height: 93px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVRQVYxNOI/AAAAAAAAIYM/OoJKwVfuQNw/s400/welcome_road_trip.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>.. Just a brief note: gone south of the border for a couple of days. The 30# salmon of the <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Chetco River</span> are interesting - BUT; how 'bout some from the main-stem <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Smith River</span>? <a href="http://www.currypilot.com/20091128114295/Sports/Sports/Chetco-kings-still-biting-with-dropping-flows"><span style="font-weight: bold;">(READ THE LATEST CHETCO REPORT HERE!)</span></a><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SxH3p4PpX2I/AAAAAAAAIc4/qhS8NWQ2FLY/s1600/fish-on.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 207px; height: 129px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SxH3p4PpX2I/AAAAAAAAIc4/qhS8NWQ2FLY/s400/fish-on.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5409376926293385058" border="0" /></a><br />.. Shameless plug: <a href="http://www.wildriversfishing.com/fishingreport.html"><span style="font-weight: bold;">GET YOUR GUIDE HERE</span></a>!<br />.. It's such an easy drive from Brookings, Oregon to Crescent City, California that we decided to spend some money on a ticket for the Bear Flag Republic.<br />.. Reports to follow.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">--------</span><br /></span></div><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SxHYouY3hRI/AAAAAAAAIcg/_KPydRJ5W3o/s1600/S-FORK_Smith.JPG"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 540px; height: 929px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SxHYouY3hRI/AAAAAAAAIcg/_KPydRJ5W3o/s400/S-FORK_Smith.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5409342821607376146" border="0" /></a><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SxHoI_Ne0dI/AAAAAAAAIcw/gUsDi7yayiY/s1600/pflueger-Trion-Fly-Front.gif"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 388px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SxHoI_Ne0dI/AAAAAAAAIcw/gUsDi7yayiY/s400/pflueger-Trion-Fly-Front.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5409359868553253330" border="0" /></a><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25641488-1299019715870041421?l=flyfishyellowstone.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Grotesquely Sunny</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yellowstoner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[MOTHERS HIDING THEIR BABIESSalmon Wearing Sunglassesguides confused by lack of fog-------.. The "Chetco Effect" was absent for four days straight. Obscene sunshine permeated the conifers and they began to wilt. Neighbors saw who they were living next t...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102);">MOTHERS HIDING THEIR BABIES</span><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 153, 102);">Salmon Wearing Sunglasses</span><br /></span></div><div  style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);font-size:78%;" >guides confused by lack of fog</span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw89VNackWI/AAAAAAAAIb4/vCRuvZZuRgY/s1600/chetco-effect.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 541px; height: 277px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw89VNackWI/AAAAAAAAIb4/vCRuvZZuRgY/s400/chetco-effect.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5408609112082387298" border="0" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-------</span><br /></span></div><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVRQVYxNOI/AAAAAAAAIYM/OoJKwVfuQNw/s400/welcome_road_trip.gif"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 170px; height: 75px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVRQVYxNOI/AAAAAAAAIYM/OoJKwVfuQNw/s400/welcome_road_trip.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>.. The <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: rgb(153, 51, 0);">"Chetco Effect"</span> was absent for four days straight. Obscene sunshine permeated the conifers and they began to wilt. Neighbors saw who they were living next to for the first time in seven months.<br />.. Motorists discovered that <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">Crescent City</span> wasn't in Oregon. And, believe it or don't, there was no wind to speak of and the sky really is blue.<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw9BWOjggKI/AAAAAAAAIcA/6nxdAeigffc/s1600/chet-catch.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 540px; height: 339px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw9BWOjggKI/AAAAAAAAIcA/6nxdAeigffc/s400/chet-catch.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5408613527615209634" border="0" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw9QfCZ--nI/AAAAAAAAIcY/Hts7oMnK_ZI/s1600/chetco-jetty.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 199px; height: 66px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw9QfCZ--nI/AAAAAAAAIcY/Hts7oMnK_ZI/s400/chetco-jetty.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5408630171647277682" border="0" /></a>.. Salmon fishing slowed until yesterday afternoon, (a welcome Thanksgiving gift,) - the fog returned, it rained, the river came up, and the slugs came back to the roads.<br />.. There truly is a god, and the salmon sniffed their way back to the runs below the forest road. Just a mere 3 miles from Highway 101 there are 22# fish begging to be caught. We think it's worth another day or two.<br />.. The migratory fishers are already looking either north or south. <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Umpqua</span>, <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Smith</span>, and <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Gualala</span> are on the lips of many. For now, and for us, it's still the <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Chetco River</span> and the <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Coquille River</span>. We won't tell if you don't.<br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-------</span></span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw9MsiBcZ9I/AAAAAAAAIcI/zdTf29DtD4o/s1600/chetco_bridge-09.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 540px; height: 258px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw9MsiBcZ9I/AAAAAAAAIcI/zdTf29DtD4o/s400/chetco_bridge-09.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5408626005426071506" border="0" /></a><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw9PdPfv88I/AAAAAAAAIcQ/EYTn1jrjZVM/s1600/JW_Young-3-AAA.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 541px; height: 531px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw9PdPfv88I/AAAAAAAAIcQ/EYTn1jrjZVM/s400/JW_Young-3-AAA.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5408629041289753538" border="0" /></a></div>.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25641488-8835359683784738083?l=flyfishyellowstone.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>The 101 Connection</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yellowstoner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[CRUISIN' FOR CHROMEVantage Points And Accessit's a social thing-------.. We were invited to an interesting social event along the  Oregon coast. Of course we attended. The informal gatherings are pleasant, informative, and require an enormous amount of...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;">CRUISIN' FOR CHROME<br /></span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Vantage Points And Access</span><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:78%;"  >it's a social thing</span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw05vKr3NfI/AAAAAAAAIbg/M4eEcg6XmHk/s1600/ELK_party-22.JPG"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 541px; height: 288px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw05vKr3NfI/AAAAAAAAIbg/M4eEcg6XmHk/s400/ELK_party-22.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5408042210026796530" border="0" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;">-------<br /></span></div><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVRQVYxNOI/AAAAAAAAIYM/OoJKwVfuQNw/s400/welcome_road_trip.gif"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 132px; height: 71px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVRQVYxNOI/AAAAAAAAIYM/OoJKwVfuQNw/s400/welcome_road_trip.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>.. We were invited to an interesting social event along the  Oregon coast. Of course <a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw01keGPXdI/AAAAAAAAIbQ/GhDwgahd-jE/s1600/101+sign.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 72px; height: 57px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw01keGPXdI/AAAAAAAAIbQ/GhDwgahd-jE/s400/101+sign.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5408037628212633042" border="0" /></a>we attended. The informal gatherings are pleasant, informative, and require an enormous amount of gasoline consumption.<br />.. The venues change periodically as the season progresses. Currently the big party is at the<span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"> </span><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">ELK RIVER</span> bridge. Since Highway 101 <a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw03nY1qScI/AAAAAAAAIbY/gLBMGQUdpKM/s1600/101_br-P880.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 254px; height: 363px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw03nY1qScI/AAAAAAAAIbY/gLBMGQUdpKM/s400/101_br-P880.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5408039877363780034" border="0" /></a>crosses these rivers near the coast, and since the bridges are high above the water, and since the sun moves across the sky, (or so it seems,) - it's possible to anticipate the correct viewing conditions for spotting steelhead in their holding water.<br />.. In some instances the access from the bridge right-of-way coincides with good holding water.<br />.. Bridge pools along U.S. 101 are similar to bridge pools elsewhere. They are stable, predictable, and provide constrictions for aerated water and viewing for fisher folk.<br />.. Information is exchanged as the folks peer over the side at the fish. Where are the fish concentrated? What are they eating? Have you seen Hank's new girlfriend? Etc.<br />.. We enjoyed the experience. We also enjoyed the enormous prevarications, misinformation, and silly demeanor of the local guides as they did their best to protect their insight in the face of so much local "TRUTH."<br />.. We bypassed the <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Elk River</span> and sallied down to the <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Chetco River</span>. It proved to be worthwhile.<br />.. Time for some jelly donuts and green tea. It's the local equivalent of a healthy breakfast.<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw007QktNII/AAAAAAAAIbI/G1zoeBCk5OM/s1600/E_R-SS09A.JPG"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 540px; height: 330px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw007QktNII/AAAAAAAAIbI/G1zoeBCk5OM/s400/E_R-SS09A.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5408036920207684738" border="0" /></a><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw1AKzMOSII/AAAAAAAAIbo/xloIa_3pZmQ/s1600/ss_intns-pp.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 541px; height: 294px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw1AKzMOSII/AAAAAAAAIbo/xloIa_3pZmQ/s400/ss_intns-pp.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5408049281826179202" border="0" /></a><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-------</span></span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw1BWU2Dm-I/AAAAAAAAIbw/N-HS1LGY5Wg/s1600/Shaks_1824-00a.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 540px; height: 518px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Sw1BWU2Dm-I/AAAAAAAAIbw/N-HS1LGY5Wg/s400/Shaks_1824-00a.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5408050579350199266" border="0" /></a><span style="font-size:180%;"><br /></span></div><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25641488-9109463853300248736?l=flyfishyellowstone.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>No Cholera</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yellowstoner</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[cholera]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[FORT BOISE TO ROSEBURGA Few Simple Rationsfish tomorrow-------.. Fort Boise was the largest city along the old Oregon Trail. It still is! We made it across the northern Great Basin on a quart of chocolate milk and three jelly donuts... No cholera was c...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;"><span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 51);">FORT BOISE TO ROSEBURG</span><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 102);">A Few Simple Rations</span><br /></span></div><div  style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:trebuchet ms;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 0, 153);font-size:78%;" >fish tomorrow</span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Swj_qDeDelI/AAAAAAAAIZc/nlCg43fKJfo/s1600/sepia.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 541px; height: 190px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/Swj_qDeDelI/AAAAAAAAIZc/nlCg43fKJfo/s400/sepia.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5406852450609232466" border="0" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;">-------<br /></span></div><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVRQVYxNOI/AAAAAAAAIYM/OoJKwVfuQNw/s400/welcome_road_trip.gif"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 171px; height: 101px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVRQVYxNOI/AAAAAAAAIYM/OoJKwVfuQNw/s400/welcome_road_trip.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>.. Fort Boise was the largest city along the old Oregon Trail. <a href="http://www.isu.edu/%7Etrinmich/FtBoise.html"><span style="font-weight: bold;">It still is</span></a>! We made it across the northern Great Basin on a quart of chocolate milk and three jelly donuts.<br />.. No cholera was contracted, every river crossing was dry, and the natives we encountered were not hostile.<br />.. The high point of the trek was the Millican Store - it's for sale! It would make the perfect fly fishing emporium for sand trout.<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwkI8AXBPZI/AAAAAAAAIZs/07c6kJvLyxw/s1600/Mil_str_MOD-KKK03.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 539px; height: 231px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwkI8AXBPZI/AAAAAAAAIZs/07c6kJvLyxw/s400/Mil_str_MOD-KKK03.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5406862654616714642" border="0" /></a><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-------</span></span><br /></div>.. By the time we encountered Willamette Pass another quart of milk had been consumed - along with a 1/2 dozen Twinkies. The pass was an instructive experience. We'd never before seen a tractor/trailer rig on an escape ramp in 18" of snow. We would show you a picture of the strange sight but we were too busy sliding sideways to find the camera.<br />.. From what we could see through the fog, and the snow, and the clouds of diesel exhaust, it looks like pretty country. The stench of burning brake linings spoiled the experience though. The elk we saw reminded us of home - even if they were DOSR.<br />.. There does not seem to be a recession in the Oregon gasoline business. <a href="http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/480.html"><span style="font-weight: bold;">No self service here</span></a>. Swarms of eager pump jockeys descend on the vehicles to put gasoline in the correct orifice. It seems that the state legislature figures that people who drive their own automobile, (not motorcycle or airplane,) are too stupid to find the correct place to shove the nozzle. Interesting in a state that does allow self-serve suicide!<br />.. This day will bring a journey down the mysterious <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Coquille River</span>. From it's headwaters to the Pacific Ocean It should provide some beautiful scenery, and probably several more dead elk. After driving past all the renowned fisheries on the road here - this had better be good!<br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-------</span></span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwkKo-B1GDI/AAAAAAAAIZ0/yV2enBSW7AU/s1600/Grt_Bsn-morn-09LL.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 542px; height: 254px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwkKo-B1GDI/AAAAAAAAIZ0/yV2enBSW7AU/s400/Grt_Bsn-morn-09LL.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5406864526596708402" border="0" /></a><span style="font-size:180%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-------</span></span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwkMFEUW4GI/AAAAAAAAIZ8/-Nnr4gm5Jp0/s1600/Priest+%26+Knife.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 540px; height: 289px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwkMFEUW4GI/AAAAAAAAIZ8/-Nnr4gm5Jp0/s400/Priest+%26+Knife.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5406866108832997474" border="0" /></a></div>.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25641488-6872625386770171674?l=flyfishyellowstone.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>&#8216;Sno Snow</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yellowstoner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[PLENTY OF GRAYSky, Water, Daygreat for fishing-------.. Gentle drive across Idaho. Nothing but wind and a song to keep us company; and that's just fine... The spuds are in: the Fork is fishing nicely, the hay is stacked, the sky is vast, and we'll have...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;">PLENTY OF GRAY<br /></span></div><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"><span style="font-size:130%;">Sky, Water, Day<br /></span></div><div  style="text-align: center;font-family:trebuchet ms;"><span style="font-size:78%;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">great for fishing</span></span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwdqhUmQ_AI/AAAAAAAAIY0/lEvQD-CA4Ms/s1600/Tits-usit.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 540px; height: 249px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwdqhUmQ_AI/AAAAAAAAIY0/lEvQD-CA4Ms/s400/Tits-usit.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5406406998379002882" border="0" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;">-------<br /></span></div><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVRQVYxNOI/AAAAAAAAIYM/OoJKwVfuQNw/s400/welcome_road_trip.gif"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 151px; height: 75px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVRQVYxNOI/AAAAAAAAIYM/OoJKwVfuQNw/s400/welcome_road_trip.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>.. Gentle drive across Idaho. Nothing but wind and a song to keep us company; and that's just fine.<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwdrOipeEFI/AAAAAAAAIY8/_s9Zv_KJ3DY/s1600/Fork_good-bye.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 372px; height: 202px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwdrOipeEFI/AAAAAAAAIY8/_s9Zv_KJ3DY/s400/Fork_good-bye.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5406407775244652626" border="0" /></a><br />.. The spuds are in: the <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Fork</span> is fishing nicely, the hay is stacked, the sky is vast, and we'll have breakfast in about an hour - somewhere in Oregon.<br />.. <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">Just for Ed</span> - stopped to see if downtown Jerome was still the hot spot of southern Idaho. Report in 12 days.<br /><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:78%;">*****<br /></span></div>.. Click on over to <a href="http://www.artcreel.com/"><span style="font-weight: bold;">ART CREEL</span></a> for a special deal on limited edition prints from some of fly fishing's more renowned artists - (including <a href="http://drawingflies365.blogspot.com/"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Jeff Kennedy</span></a>.)<br /><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;">-------</span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwdtZR4TSKI/AAAAAAAAIZM/GcEOB98torE/s1600/Outside_poky.JPG"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 540px; height: 330px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwdtZR4TSKI/AAAAAAAAIZM/GcEOB98torE/s400/Outside_poky.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5406410158745274530" border="0" /></a><br /><span style="font-size:180%;">-------</span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwdsrfJTTTI/AAAAAAAAIZE/jQbthAh2QQk/s1600/J_E_P-30FF.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 540px; height: 565px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwdsrfJTTTI/AAAAAAAAIZE/jQbthAh2QQk/s400/J_E_P-30FF.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5406409372032257330" border="0" /></a></div>.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25641488-9061369542621647635?l=flyfishyellowstone.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>&#8216;Tweeners</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yellowstoner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[DA ONES IN BETWEENSummer Run &#38; Winter Runsalmon, steelhead, cutthroat-------.. There's a host of less well known streams in southern coastal Oregon that provide exceptional fishing between the last of the Summer run fish and the first of the Winter...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;">DA ONES IN BETWEEN<br /></span></div><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">Summer Run &amp; Winter Run<br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:78%;">salmon, steelhead, cutthroat</span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://widescreen.dpiq.org/"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 541px; height: 326px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVK9epRoeI/AAAAAAAAIX8/mJvUrs-1p5o/s400/Autumn_Color,_Coquille_River,_Oregon.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5405809347786809826" border="0" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;">-------<br /></span></div><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVRQVYxNOI/AAAAAAAAIYM/OoJKwVfuQNw/s1600/welcome_road_trip.gif"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 157px; height: 115px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVRQVYxNOI/AAAAAAAAIYM/OoJKwVfuQNw/s400/welcome_road_trip.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5405816268788937954" border="0" /></a>.. There's a host of less well known streams in southern coastal Oregon that provide exceptional fishing between the last of the Summer run fish and the first of the Winter run fish.<br />.. When local residents are asked about the catching possibilities, a response, (with just a small - nearly undetectable smirk,) is offered, that directs visitors to the <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Chetco</span>, <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Umpqua</span>, <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Rogue</span>, and <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Elk</span> rivers. <a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.fishingsouthernoregonrivers.com/Rivers.htm"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 288px; height: 166px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVHVmN7yKI/AAAAAAAAIX0/rd3uUEGlzO0/s400/sher.coquille.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5405805364089964706" border="0" /></a>They seldom mention the <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);">Coquille River</span>.<br />.. We won't say much either  --  BUT  -- The <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">South Fork of the Coquille River </span>hosts a "whisper run" of interesting fish. We're inclined to be suspicious about the lack of conversation surrounding a river of this size, in this geographic setting.<br />.. With our interest piqued, we're off to investigate the possibility that there is still a place where neither elbows nor egos get in the way of winter fishing.<br />.. Prognosis <a href="http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091112/LIFE/911120305/-1/NEWSMAP"><span style="font-weight: bold;">HERE</span></a> and <a href="http://www.bandonwesternworld.com/articles/2009/11/12/sports/doc4afb4b56e386c287992008.txt"><span style="font-weight: bold;">HERE</span></a>. And, of course there's <a href="http://thequietpool.blogspot.com/2009/07/and-beat-goes-on.html"><span style="font-weight: bold;">just a bit of controversy</span></a> surrounding the fishery too. After all the <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">Coquille River System</span> is the <a href="http://www.pacificwatersheds.net/ontheground/coquille.htm"><span style="font-weight: bold;">third largest in Oregon</span></a>. We'll let you know.<br /><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;">-------</span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVM_XpyvDI/AAAAAAAAIYE/IHMnrKXDI08/s1600/Nice_Golden_West-AA09.JPG"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 541px; height: 582px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RsCdaHlwY9g/SwVM_XpyvDI/AAAAAAAAIYE/IHMnrKXDI08/s400/Nice_Golden_West-AA09.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5405811579292924978" border="0" /></a></div>.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25641488-5850659421171749661?l=flyfishyellowstone.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Underground Review: Rivers of a Lost Coast (Available on DVD)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rivers of the Lost Coast was just issued on DVD,  and all I can say is it&#8217;s about freakin&#8217; time.
This intelligently made film offers a poignant (and often painful) look a the rise and fall of California&#8217;s and Oregon&#8217;s steelhead rivers &#8211; and weaves in a spellbinding story about some of fly fishing&#8217;s most [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.riversofalostcoast.com/index.php" >Rivers of the Lost Coast</a> was just issued on DVD,  and all I can say is it&#8217;s about freakin&#8217; time.</p>
<p>This intelligently made film offers a poignant (and often painful) look a the rise and fall of California&#8217;s and Oregon&#8217;s steelhead rivers &#8211; and weaves in a spellbinding story about some of fly fishing&#8217;s most iconic figures.</p>
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<p>Fly fishing legends Bill Schaadt and Ted Lindner began the largely Post-WWII narrative as friends, but ultimately became sworn enemies. Whatever the reasons, the feud divided the nascent steelheading community &#8211; which wasn&#8217;t exactly an easy club to join.</p>
<p>In interview after interview, people describe the era&#8217;s steelhead &amp; salmon runs, the decline in those runs, and how the unique breed of hardcore fly fishermen formed, split, and adapted.</p>
<p>Some didn&#8217;t adapt very well &#8211; either to diminishing fish populations or the growing crowds of fishermen &#8211; and therein lies the true genius of this movie.</p>
<p>&#8220;Extreme&#8221; characters like Bill Schaadt and Ted Lindner are normally the work of fiction writers, but they&#8217;re real &#8211; and they&#8217;re compelling enough to me that I watched the movie several times.</p>
<p>To sketch the characters, Rivers of a Lost Coast leans heavily on interviews with those who knew and fished with them (including Russell Chatham [read his <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1089313/index.htm" >lengthy Sports Illustrated piece on Schaadt here</a>], Jim Adams, Lani Waller and others).</p>
<p>What emerges is an engrossing &#8211; if sometimes hard-to-comprehend &#8211; portrait of some of steelheading&#8217;s first truly extreme fly fishers.</p>
<p>Most interesting is the picture that emerges of Bill Schaadt, a revered (and often reviled) fly fisherman whose obsessive behavior included hiding his car &amp; boat, and cutting the fly lines of others with razor blades tied in the bends of hooks.</p>
<p>With Chatham and others offering up revelation after revelation during their interviews, the movie flows beautifully &#8211; even as the precipitous decline of steelhead and salmon populations plays out (somewhat painfully) before our eyes.</p>
<p>The filmmakers have created something special &#8211; something worth a little of your time.</p>
<p>How much did I like <a href="http://www.riversofalostcoast.com/index.php" >Rivers of a Lost Coast</a>? A friend asked me to summarize the film, I told him it&#8217;s the movie Ken Burns would have made if he was an obsessed steelheader.</p>
<p>See you at the picture show, Tom Chandler</p>
<p><strong>Resources: </strong></p>
<p><a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1089313/index.htm" >Sports Illustrated article on Bill Schaadt by Russell Chatham</a><br />
<a href="http://www.riversofalostcoast.com/index.php" >But the Rivers of a Lost Coast DVD</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Schaadt" >Wikipedia entry on Bill Schaadt</a></p>
<p>Movie Trailer:</p>
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		<title>Orvis National Casting Competition Starts Today (or, I’m Staying Home For Safety Reasons)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[At this point, I&#8217;m forced to feign surprise that I missed the start of the Orvis National Casting Competition in four-hours-up-the-road Bend, Oregon &#8211; being as the only alternative is to admit that I cast poorly on some days, and really poorly on others.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>At this point, I&#8217;m forced to feign surprise that I missed the start of the <a href="http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090917/SPORTS05/909170385/-1/RSSNEWSMAP" >Orvis National Casting Competition</a> in four-hours-up-the-road Bend, Oregon &#8211; being as the only alternative is to admit that I cast poorly on some days, and really poorly on others.</p>
<p>And with people like Tim Rajeff showing up to put the boots to the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">clearly inadequate males</span> amateurs comprising most of the field, let&#8217;s just say I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m here writing about this thing instead of there demonstrating my expert tailing loop in front of people with video cameras.</p>
<p>Thus, the illusion of omnipotence remains intact.</p>
<p>Still, for <a href="http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090917/SPORTS05/909170385/-1/RSSNEWSMAP">those with an interest</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Amateurs can participate on Friday, starting with a clinic at 3 p.m. Professional casters will compete on Saturday, beginning at 9 a.m. The ladies competition is set for Sunday at 9 a.m. Registration is still available (541-312-8200).</p>
<p>Kevney Dugan, fishing manager for Bend’s Orvis, the fly-fishing retail chain based in Vermont, says he expects about 12 pros to take part on Saturday, including top casters Tim Rajeff, of Vancouver, Wash.; Henry Mittel, of San Ramon, Calif.; and Floyd Dean, of Sausalito, Calif.</p></blockquote>
<p>When Orvis first launched their casting course, I wrote that this kind of competition was intriguing; could this kind of competition help a flailing fly fishing industry, or are we all just better off going fly fishing?</p>
<p>Given my ability to wrap a fly line around my neck &#8211; and those of anyone fishing &#8220;danger close&#8221; &#8211; I lean towards the latter instead of the former, but that doesn&#8217;t mean this kind of thing is wholly without merit.</p>
<p>The Bend paper describes the course thusly:</p>
<blockquote><p>The course, which is open free to the public, opened last fall. Each hole has a unique set of challenges and rules, and a designated par. For example, a par-4 hole could include three targets — meaning that if a caster hits all three targets in a total of four casts, he or she makes par.</p>
<p>Targets on the pond holes are floating rings made of aluminum. On the land holes, the targets are rings made of concrete.</p>
<p>Casters use fly lines and leader, and a small piece of yarn attached to the leader in place of the fly. For safety reasons, the hooked flies typically used by fly anglers are not allowed on the course.</p>
<p>Other holes require anglers to cast as far as they can, then walk to the yarn, and cast again from there — much like a conventional golfer, hitting a series of shots to reach the hole.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, but I do that too. I cast my fly as far as I can, then walk to where it&#8217;s hung up in a tree, cast again, and walk to the next tree&#8230; you get the picture.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;d be better at this competition thing than I thought.</p>
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		<title>Feb 25, Oregon Rivers Fly Fishing and Adventures</title>
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